tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post5974744874511961082..comments2023-09-19T11:52:32.730-04:00Comments on Fack Youk: Joba Is Heading Back To The BullpenJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04839022142066882411noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-7634901588365265942010-03-26T17:00:53.065-04:002010-03-26T17:00:53.065-04:00Greg, I have to disagree and I don't want to m...Greg, I have to disagree and I don't want to make this a criticism of Phil Hughes because I have no issue with him being developed as a starter, its the only good news in this whole mess. However, Joba has now thrown ~ 220 innings as a starter in the major leagues. In 2008 Joba was spectacular in those 12 or so starts (give or take on the ridiculous pitch counts). Last year, he threw SShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13648363900124999079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-70564412451815556612010-03-26T15:43:57.666-04:002010-03-26T15:43:57.666-04:00Steve, I wouldn't say that Hughes has *never* ...Steve, I wouldn't say that Hughes has *never* shown glimpses of being a great starter. He had a no-hitter going against Texas before his hamstring injury. He pitched pretty well in his rookie year while dealing with that injury. If you look at Baseball-reference.com and their career splits as starters, Joba has pitched better to an extent, but they're not THAT far apart to say that Phil Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-59431561507241043092010-03-26T13:06:20.023-04:002010-03-26T13:06:20.023-04:00Joba was fantastic in the bullpen too and he showe...Joba was fantastic in the bullpen too and he showed glimpses of being a great starter in both 2008 and 2009, something Hughes has never done. And if Hughes' performance in the bullpen last year sold them that might be the dumbest reasoning I have ever heard of. Essentially Hughes concentrated on throwing two pitches and heavily relying on his fastball when he moved to the bullpen. How doesSShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13648363900124999079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-59669214446399069482010-03-26T12:48:46.038-04:002010-03-26T12:48:46.038-04:00Steve - I hear where you are coming from and agree...Steve - I hear where you are coming from and agree your general sentiment, but there is only one spot in the rotation. Yes, he was in the bullpen for most of last year, but Hughes was fantastic there. I'm sure that has a lot to do with why he won the spot over Joba. It's hard to argue with that choice without having worked with them and watched them throw this spring. Maybe there is a bigJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04839022142066882411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-85386005969326079862010-03-26T11:58:40.614-04:002010-03-26T11:58:40.614-04:00Jay- The reality is that Joba was not really given...Jay- The reality is that Joba was not really given a fair shake and I haven't seen a valid explanation. Merely saying that he has been inconsistent is not enough when discussing 24 year old starting pitchers. And if consistency has been an issue what has Hughes done to show it. I agree that Hughes should be developed as a starter but looking at the track records I dont see anything aside SShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13648363900124999079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-80289289015133341882010-03-25T18:20:23.820-04:002010-03-25T18:20:23.820-04:00I feel the same way Jay. I'm very happy that ...I feel the same way Jay. I'm very happy that Hughes gets the chance to develop into the starting pitcher we always wanted him to be, but having a detrimental effect on Joba's future as a starter is tough to swallow. Let's just hope he gets sent to AAA and can be called upon if needed, because I just get the feeling he's going to be needed to start at some point this season.Erichttp://thehousethatgeorgebuilt.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-83864788269329641262010-03-25T17:31:39.555-04:002010-03-25T17:31:39.555-04:00Jay you're 100% correct on all aspects of this...Jay you're 100% correct on all aspects of this. I'm a BIG Joba fan, but failing to send him to AAA is a massive error. Hughes' winning the 5th spot should have ZERO correlation to how Joba opens the year. NYY management continues to mess with Joba's head & that's no good for nobody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-32138003289311349942010-03-25T17:16:13.540-04:002010-03-25T17:16:13.540-04:00Steve - Girardi talked a lot about Hughes' imp...Steve - Girardi talked a lot about Hughes' improved changeup as one of the reasons he was impressive this spring. I don't think Joe mentioned it specifically, but I would assume that Phil's performance out of the bullpen last year had a lot to do with the decision as well. That, to me at least, is more important that what he did as a starter because it was over more innings and was Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04839022142066882411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-65025958927965143392010-03-25T16:55:40.401-04:002010-03-25T16:55:40.401-04:00Did anyone at any point ask how Hughes demonstrate...Did anyone at any point ask how Hughes demonstrated he is the better starter at this stage? His performance over the course of a month and a half last year as a starter didnt demonstrate that. So they based this decision on Spring Training? Really? They determined that Hughes, with an innings limit is a better starter than Joba who wasnt awful last year, he was inconsistent.SShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13648363900124999079noreply@blogger.com