tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post3897121163589551243..comments2023-09-19T11:52:32.730-04:00Comments on Fack Youk: I Know That Face: McGwire, A-Rod and PosnanskiJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04839022142066882411noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-21861401215813777912010-01-15T00:03:35.324-05:002010-01-15T00:03:35.324-05:00The Cardinals actually hired the company, not McGw...The Cardinals actually hired the company, not McGwire...which, as a Cardinal fan, makes me sick to my stomach. <br /><br />http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/C93B3D4F5ECFA9C6862576AB000C42EB?OpenDocumentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-35134000849330754832010-01-14T17:09:24.189-05:002010-01-14T17:09:24.189-05:00With all the doping in baseball during the "S...With all the doping in baseball during the "Steroids Era" and the lack or really determining how much an effect Steroids (PEDS, or whatever you wanna call them) actually made on players using them, along with not knowing exactly who was doped up, could we have the unpopular discussion that says "count the corrupted stats because steriods was so widespread throughout the league thatUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03777748549842099189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-83441121865300894622010-01-14T15:05:04.138-05:002010-01-14T15:05:04.138-05:00hilleraj84: I thought I addressed what you're ...hilleraj84: I thought I addressed what you're saying, though apparently not clearly enough. As I said — and Jay <a href="http://fackyouk.blogspot.com/2010/01/re-yesterday.html#comments" rel="nofollow"> thoughtfully wrote about</a> today — I'm not looking to suggest Berkman's flexible positions are necessarily bad. <br /><br />Considering, though, how the slightest utterance can be NaOHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06858066743637544730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-72655040602772098242010-01-14T13:30:23.200-05:002010-01-14T13:30:23.200-05:00You used color photos!You used color photos!Linkhttp://myspace.com/lincolnsworldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-19616085950282053072010-01-14T12:38:09.058-05:002010-01-14T12:38:09.058-05:00@NaOH:
Comparing the two quotes you posted is kin...@NaOH:<br /><br />Comparing the two quotes you posted is kind of an apples/oranges argument. In no way does Berkman imply that he feels sorry for Mac, nor does he try to excuse him of his actions. There is a difference in tone between the two quotes, but keep in mind that they were given at two markedly different times (at least in terms of how PED stories have played out this year). It's hilleraj84noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-62699150334350592432010-01-14T09:01:12.567-05:002010-01-14T09:01:12.567-05:00There may be inconsistent reactions to Arod and Mc...There may be inconsistent reactions to Arod and McGwire, but one common theme is so many people expressing opinions without any evidence to support their claims. That, in fact, is the theme of the steroid era. Everyone wrings their hands over substances about which we know little, all the while insisting facts that really have no basis in science. Of course, now the intrepid reporters and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-90671681660128011372010-01-14T01:03:00.380-05:002010-01-14T01:03:00.380-05:00I'll admit that I considered not posting what ...I'll admit that I considered not posting what I did simply because I don't think it's necessarily so bad when someone changes their mind. Folks often label such moves as being hypocritical or duplicitous, but I'd people remain open to new ideas and perspectives.<br /><br />I do, though, find it interesting how people's need to immediately say something often leads to NaOHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06858066743637544730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-3659626510081726992010-01-14T00:36:02.699-05:002010-01-14T00:36:02.699-05:00It is great to see Berkman being so consistent on ...It is great to see Berkman being so consistent on this issue, What a guy!nutballgazettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15953156266049373818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-63749389665498074282010-01-14T00:31:01.723-05:002010-01-14T00:31:01.723-05:00Lance Berkman on McGwire:
I think it’s good that ...Lance Berkman on McGwire:<br /><br /><i>I think it’s good that he came out and admitted it. It’s good for him and good for the sport. It hopefully will help us get over this steroid mess.</i><br /><br />Lance Berkman on Alex Rodriguez:<br /><br /><i>I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. If you do something like that, you're going to pay the piper eventually. I'm sure his teammatesNaOHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06858066743637544730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-33340714909769095952010-01-13T23:54:17.793-05:002010-01-13T23:54:17.793-05:00This is written IMHO--I am one who did get caught ...This is written IMHO--I am one who did get caught up with the Moment of 1998 even though I had my suspicions back then, However I have become angry at all the Steroid users and feel none of them should get in the HOF including A-Rod, Clemens and Andy Pettite if his numbers were good enough, After That act on Monday and reading what some FBI informants have been saying on how much PEDs McGuire hasnutballgazettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15953156266049373818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-73073486985828180682010-01-13T22:48:27.351-05:002010-01-13T22:48:27.351-05:00I think it bears mentioning that McGwire wants to ...I think it bears mentioning that McGwire wants to coach because he loves the game. When he retired he left a $30 million contract on the table unsigned so it's surely not about the money. I find his confession to be lacking, but I think his willingness to use the word "steroid", as opposed to what most of the other cheats will cop to, admirable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-61397327137309140662010-01-13T13:34:08.116-05:002010-01-13T13:34:08.116-05:00I am slightly sympathetic to Pos insofar as A-Rod ...I am slightly sympathetic to Pos insofar as A-Rod can't tell you his name without sounding a little too packaged and insincere.<br /><br />But the reaction to A-Rod's admissions was (to me) truly astonishing. Here is pretty much the only active player to admit it (compare Ortiz, Ramirez, Palmeiro, etc.), and he was raked over the coals when it was decided that his admissions weren't Joeyjonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-82480328502671739602010-01-13T13:32:06.969-05:002010-01-13T13:32:06.969-05:00Man, couldn't he get your site's name corr...Man, couldn't he get your site's name correct in his response? Anyway, I hope this leads to more exposure for you guys; you deserve it. But don't forget us little people who've been around since Doris threw a pumpkin on your back porch!Modehttp://baseballalamode.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-32139152647025562072010-01-13T12:58:35.529-05:002010-01-13T12:58:35.529-05:00Fantastic blog here. I fully agree with all you sa...Fantastic blog here. I fully agree with all you said on Joe Poz (he's the finest sportswriter we have today), but his McGwire piece was one of the few times I didn't see his angle. I also thought Rob Neyer's column Monday (and I respect Neyer) was borderline ridiculous.pianowskihttp://twitter.com/scott_pianowskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-52289900345398863032010-01-13T12:45:34.306-05:002010-01-13T12:45:34.306-05:00great piece, and yet another reason why this is on...great piece, and yet another reason why this is one of the best blogs out there<br /><br />Sportswriters see what they want to see in apologies--if they like the guy, he did a great job and we should forgive him and move on, and if they don't like the guy, all the information and admissions in the world aren't enough. That is the real difference between how the media has treated the likesJGSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-34692070425836583022010-01-13T12:19:27.197-05:002010-01-13T12:19:27.197-05:00Great piece, Jay. I'm not in the same camp as ...Great piece, Jay. I'm not in the same camp as you in my feelings towards Mac, but I liked the piece anyway. We all love Pos, but this deserves mentioning. It doesn't mean Pos is evil or anything, of course - the world is a complex place and it's easy to have two different reactions to the same essential thing 8 months apart, esp when the people involved are so different. It could larhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314820003835656973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-19936205972724622422010-01-13T10:48:23.848-05:002010-01-13T10:48:23.848-05:00It makes sense to me that way, too (they do it tha...It makes sense to me that way, too (they do it that way in some countries, I know), but I'm a teacher now so I guess I'm going to have to stick to the script, if you will.Mark Elder Allenhttp://www.twitter.com/markelderallen/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-27949811530007894522010-01-13T10:41:49.145-05:002010-01-13T10:41:49.145-05:00Thanks a lot, Mark.
I know I do that quotation/p...Thanks a lot, Mark. <br /><br />I know I do that quotation/punctuation thing incorrectly, but for whatever reason it seems right to me. It feels like a quote should end before the sentence does. Bad habit, but this is a blog so I feel like I can exercise some creative license.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04839022142066882411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-28552831087073080972010-01-13T10:35:09.388-05:002010-01-13T10:35:09.388-05:00This is a truly fantastic read. Loved the tone, th...This is a truly fantastic read. Loved the tone, the argument, everything. Very coherent and well-conceived. Only question is why do you end quotations prior to punctuation? I was always taught to put the punctuation within the quotation, even where it is not a part of the quotation.Mark Elder Allenhttp://www.twitter.com/markelderallen/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1256268100133425608.post-69043762090160912442010-01-13T10:27:17.949-05:002010-01-13T10:27:17.949-05:00Love this, Jay. I like Pos, but he got got.Love this, Jay. I like Pos, but he got got.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com